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		<title>TomYu at 21:52, 6 June 2012</title>
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		<title>TomYu: New page: Steve Buckley, Thomas Hardjono, Sam Hartman, Greg Hudson, Simo Sorce, Zhanna Tsitkov, Tom Yu  == Keytab based initiator creds ==  ;Greg: Keytab based initiator creds. :# when? :# princ? :#...</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: Steve Buckley, Thomas Hardjono, Sam Hartman, Greg Hudson, Simo Sorce, Zhanna Tsitkov, Tom Yu  == Keytab based initiator creds ==  ;Greg: Keytab based initiator creds. :# when? :# princ? :#...&lt;/p&gt;
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== Keytab based initiator creds ==&lt;br /&gt;
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;Greg: Keytab based initiator creds.&lt;br /&gt;
:# when?&lt;br /&gt;
:# princ?&lt;br /&gt;
:# where to cache?&lt;br /&gt;
;Greg: App might provide a desired principal name.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Sam: Not sure about using default ccache. If application A requests a principal, can unexpectedly change the behavior of application B which uses default creds but normally doesn't see any.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Simo: Thought keytab&lt;br /&gt;
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;Sam: Application can pass in a specific name.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Simo: If you want app to use a specific name, app should set ccname. Just doing automatic init without administrator configuration is undesirable.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Sam: Do if you have hint from either environment or app.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Thomas: Precedence?&lt;br /&gt;
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;Greg: Usually application, then environment variables, then config. If application provides a name is it a sufficient hint?&lt;br /&gt;
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;Sam: Application could start using Kerberos when not intended. Once you've got cache collection... makes sense to pass a name to init_sec_context. If you have something in .k5identity, then always do keytab initiator creds. Think about keytabs using MSLSA analogy... keytabs extended by ccaches.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Simo: Don't like blocking operations during enumeration.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Greg: Special cache.... interacts with some APIs, may not get destroyed when default cache does, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Sam: If collection, then use it; otherwise memory.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Simo: Seeing as daemons would be OK with environment variables... have .k5identity later.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Sam: But there is a reasonable way to get portable...&lt;br /&gt;
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;Simo: Not easy to find example code. Don't want people to use gethostbyname.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Tom: Do they do that for initiators? More common to use gethostbyname for acceptor.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Import/export creds ==&lt;br /&gt;
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;Greg: GSS proxy... so every existing app...&lt;br /&gt;
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;Simo: Mostly for acceptors&lt;br /&gt;
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;Greg: But if S4U2Proxy, the app can also be an initiator. Acceptor cred. init. delegated cred. memory ccache.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Sam: Not sure marshalling makes sense. Have tried to make portable. Can move across privilege boundary, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Greg: Context vs name. Can't do with KDB keytab. (but you probably don't want to do that)&lt;br /&gt;
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;Sam: When deferring credential resolution.&lt;br /&gt;
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;Greg: Default cred. Don't want people to depend on...&lt;br /&gt;
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Sam wants it to be portable between versions. Some discussion. It could be hard. Is the lucid context good enough for most uses?&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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